Maschine Mikro MK3 - changing octaves in MIDI mode [en-us]

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    Marcel S. @ NI (Edited )

    Happy new year Matthew!

    Apologies for the delay in responding.

    Which MIDI messages would you need to change octaves?

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    Matthew Shi

    Hi Marcel,

    I'm not sure what you mean by that. I'm looking for a way to change the octave I'm playing at while in MIDI mode. So far, I have not found octave +/- function with the Mikro Mk3.

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    Marcel S. @ NI

    Hi Matt,

    the MASCHINE MIKRO MK3 provides a fixed MIDI Mode which allows you to directly control other MIDI devices using a fixed implementation of MIDI Control Change messages. Since this MIDI Mode implementation is fixed, it is not possible to edit the MIDI Control Change messages from the Controller Editor.

    To access MIDI Mode on your MASCHINE MIKRO MK3 press:
    SHIFT + Project button (top left hand side).

    In MIDI mode, the controls on your device are mapped as depicted in the following image:

    However, if the instrument you are trying to map, provides a MIDI-mappable octave +/- function, then please let me know the instrument in question.

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    Matthew Shi

    I understand how to get into MIDI mode--the issue I'm having is that, once I'm in MIDI mode, I'm stuck in the same octave. I can't input any MIDI outside of the default octave because I can't change octaves in MIDI mode.

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    Marcel S. @ NI (Edited )

    Hi Matt,

    that is by design, as stated in my previous post.

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    N/A N/A

    So obviously there is a way to change pitch on the controller and the support is not very helpful in describing the functions of their own product; surprising. However, I really like this product and in order to make notes higher or lower i simply click and hold the group button and click on pads farther or closer to the orange lit pad to make the set higher or lower. Hope this helped! 

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    Marcel S. @ NI

    Hello Matt,

    could you please share us a video demonstrating of what you've explained in your previous comment?

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    massimo leoni

    N/A N/A ...it works perfectly!

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    Francisco Magallon

    Hi, Marcel i have the same problem. Here the instrument in question would be Ableton´s Simpler or Drum Rack, both of which provides mappeable octave +/- feature. And as the og post says, when i load for example a bass sample into a Simpler, i can trigger the notes in midi mode but they are by default set like 2 octaves below and cant even hear them. Any help on how to shift octaves in midi mode? This would be the equivalent of pressing Z or X in Computer Midi Keyboard mode.

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    Francisco Magallon

    Thanks Murphy, that Group hold was the trick we were looking for I guess. Still I think the Mikro MK3 Midi Mode is stupid limited, idk why. Way more simpler as little launchpads have those basic midi features covered out. I guess NI wants to push people to work inside Maschine DAW but I’m an Ableton user myself and Ableton is also NI’s lol so doesnt really makes sense.

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    N/A N/A (Edited )

    Hi,

    Thanks all for these answers.

    But i can't make it work.I put my maschine Mikkro mk3 on Midi mode. hold "group" button, the A(13) pad turn to Red. And i can't find the trigger to lower or higher octave !
    I want to control Polyplex pad and the range begin under C3. Maschine give a C1 to D#2 PAD amplitude by default (if i'm right).

    Any ideas or tricks ?

    Tkx by advance

     

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    Paul Colson

    Exactly the same here. And I just bought this for drums. I'm a Cubase user and not so liking the Maschine DAW.

    I'll have to sell this MK3 Mikro as it has no other usable function in Cubase. No DAW control, not transposable Midi pads,

    ...

     

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    Samir Hayek

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    Samir Hayek

    The above picture is what happens when I press the first Pad (Pad 1) (Bottom Left) on my Maschine Mikro MK3. Which is 2 octaves below what it should be. For native instruments to not know how to fix this most basic function is an absolute embarrassment and actually infuriates me. I shouldn't have to spend hours, days, lose the will to get creative and make music. and this is no third party cowboy software we are talking about here, this is Ableton, probably the biggest going about right now. If i dont get an answer immediately, I will be sending this Hardware back and i will want a full refund , and to be compensated for all the money i have spent for Ableton suite, and all the drum packs i have bought for this machine. This is as bad as selling a car with square wheels. I (We) await your correct solution.

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    Paul Colson

    The Trick N/A N/A mentions, works fine. But it took a while before I thought of the real problem : USB (again)

    Only problem was the same issue I still have (sometimes) with my S61MK2.

    My both Native devices start together with my Mac and work fine with all software (NI, Arturia, Korg,...).

    Only in Cubase 10 Pro, they are not immediately recognized. Solution, as already mentioned somewhere

    on this forum : Start Cubase, disconnect both usb devices (pull plug) and plug them back in.

    Everthings works fine : S61 gets his daw-control is stead of notes sounding when you push those buttons.

    Mikro MK3, when switched to Midi Mode, allows the group button to change the octave of the Pads.

    And here we go fingerdrumming as I wanted.

     

    So, honestly, NI is not at fault (sorry I had bad thoughts, :-)  ) but it seems that Cubase has some issues whith USB devices

    already started. And this happens the same when connected directly to Mac or connected by a usb hub.

    New small USB-C to USB-C / 3x USB A hub, makes this easy. One plug to disconnect and reconnect and everthing

    works again.

     

    ps : This USB phenomena, surprisingly, happend yesterday with my Steinberg UR-C  AI's (I have 2)

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    N/A N/A

    Hi Every one
    I still not find the trick explained in upper post with holding the group button (still hope someone give us an explanation on this ...)
    I just find that, in Logic Pro X, if u use the transpose function, you can get the pad work with Flesh.
    I join a screen copy.
    HIH

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    Francisco Magallon

    Let me clear out some things here. What Samir Hayek said is totally right. I know the trick of putting a midi pitcher device before the maschine device in the chain and transpose the midi notes to octave desired. But thats not the point here.The point here is, why would NI release a new Mikro and not care about a completely basic midi feature like octave switching? Its ridiculous and a serious embarrasment from a company as big as NI, and we all MK mikro3 users should let them know that. Paul Colson theres nothing to be sorry about, it still doesnt works for me. Im from Argentina and i had to have a friend go to US and buy me this controller, honestly if i knew such simple features like this would be an issue i would got an MPC and call it a day. But i really trusted the company and their soundcraft (Which is great, but not worthy like this). I would never produce a full song on Maschine DAW, that wasnt my approach when i bought it so i dont get why NI coming with this programmed limitations to producers and expecting that we just give them our money and adapt to this really silly nonsense issues. I dont want setting up midi pitching devices in every instance of Maschine as part of my workflow, specially when its a controller aimed to live playing. We should be able to switch octaves with one simple button because thats what midi controllers are meant to be for and the reason we put our money in it.

    No wonder the NI agent hasnt replied again in 6 months, must be akward for him to deal with this nonsense. 

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